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guild deputy · Jan 27, 2008, 02:20 PM // 14:20

As I see it at the moment, HA is more balanced than GvG.

Since the MAT everybody is playing sineptitude or something with thumpers or something different which can be labeled with "lame, to easy to play".

If you analyse the MAT all the real top guilds have lost vs Sineptitude, so if there doesnt come a proper nerf/skills balance or gvg adaption to it, a lot of GvG guilds will stop playing.

So what do you guys think about the current "meta", which kind of looks like ha.

JR · Jan 27, 2008, 02:22 PM // 14:22

Gimmicks have cropped up in GvG ever since release, there really is no need to panic. The good teams will still be winning games with each rebalance. For now people just need to learn how to adapt to play a build that counters the metabuild well.

Chik N Nuggets · Jan 27, 2008, 02:22 PM // 14:22

GvG is 8v8 too...... isnt it the same thing?

Tha Dukk · Jan 27, 2008, 02:28 PM // 14:28

Different maps/objectives >>

~ Dan ~ · Jan 27, 2008, 02:35 PM // 14:35

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Originally Posted by Chik N Nuggets

GvG is 8v8 too...... isnt it the same thing?

omg where did gvg ghostly go!?!

RhanoctJocosa · Jan 27, 2008, 02:50 PM // 14:50

It's not dead, it's just stagnant as hell.

RhanoctJocosa · Jan 27, 2008, 03:26 PM // 15:26

errrr it isn't really. if izzy fixes party healing, fixes vod and hits some lame shit it will probably be the best it's ever been (balanced wise).

shutthatdoor · Jan 27, 2008, 03:27 PM // 15:27

plz do, cuz if guild's that shouldn't be higher than r300 can win the mAT, you're really doing a bad job for game balance

oh yeh, let's do a balance update 2 days before a monthly tournament, that should be fun!

W I C K E D · Jan 27, 2008, 03:29 PM // 15:29

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

errrr it isn't really. if izzy fixes party healing, fixes vod and hits some lame shit it will probably be the best it's ever been (balanced wise).

until they fixed all those things u mentioned, gvg (and GW) is dead for me

RhanoctJocosa · Jan 27, 2008, 03:31 PM // 15:31

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Originally Posted by shutthatdoor

plz do, cuz if guild's that shouldn't be higher than r300 can win the mAT, you're really doing a bad job for game balance

oh yeh, let's do a balance update 2 days before a monthly tournament, that should be fun!

[Me] should definitely be higher than r300, wtf are you talking about.

guild deputy · Jan 27, 2008, 03:35 PM // 15:35

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

errrr it isn't really. if izzy fixes party healing, fixes vod and hits some lame shit it will probably be the best it's ever been (balanced wise).

yes it will but i just wonder, heroway has been around for what more then half a year, there were enought balances and he never did a single thing about it....

W I C K E D · Jan 27, 2008, 03:39 PM // 15:39

and dont go saying good guilds can wipe heroway cuz thats not true in a lot of cases.

shutthatdoor · Jan 27, 2008, 03:41 PM // 15:41

sry but if you get high by playing bloody sinsplit, you're not really a topguild imo

how do they recruit their sins anyway?

-can you press 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 in that exact order?
-yes
-ok, you're in.

the entire build needs no skills whatsoever.

the real good guilds weren't even in the top,

spnv 15
dr 14
soap 16
df 17

i mean wtf???

if you think good guilds can kill heroway anytime, observe hand vs final realm, it's on now

itsme · Jan 27, 2008, 04:04 PM // 16:04

I believe that the sins are not even the real problem...
Recallsplitt ist annoying as hell, yes - but you can deal with it in one way or theother.
The clumsiness component of that build is far more annoying and more broken, because you have really spec against those deal with them; and even if you spec against it (which is retarded and pretty difficult) that is not = autowin if those mesmers are halfway decent....

i don't feel like going into detail and ranting too much about this, because i think if you played sineptiway on an equal level you know what i mean...

shutthatdoor · Jan 27, 2008, 04:07 PM // 16:07

it's not recallsplit btw, but you got a point about the mesmers, yet another extremely easy, terribly overpowerred build

Pyro maniac · Jan 27, 2008, 04:19 PM // 16:19

hehe, GvG isn't bad just because your guild broke up. It has been bad for a while, imo it is better then a few months ago.
Tho Izzy's job isn't that hard. He doesn't have to make up the changes anymore by his self. Community here did that for him.

RhanoctJocosa · Jan 27, 2008, 04:20 PM // 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by shutthatdoor

sry but if you get high by playing bloody sinsplit, you're not really a topguild imo

how do they recruit their sins anyway?

-can you press 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 in that exact order?
-yes
-ok, you're in.

You have no clue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shutthatdoor

the entire build needs no skills whatsoever.

You have no clue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shutthatdoor

the real good guilds weren't even in the top,

spnv 15
dr 14
soap 16
df 17

i mean wtf???

Because they lost.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shutthatdoor

if you think good guilds can kill heroway anytime, observe hand vs final realm, it's on now

HAnD always lose to heroway, so what?

W I C K E D · Jan 27, 2008, 04:25 PM // 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

Originally Posted by shutthatdoor
sry but if you get high by playing bloody sinsplit, you're not really a topguild imo

how do they recruit their sins anyway?

-can you press 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 in that exact order?
-yes
-ok, you're in.

You have no clue.

Quote:
Originally Posted by shutthatdoor
the entire build needs no skills whatsoever.

You have no clue.

Quote:
Originally Posted by shutthatdoor
the real good guilds weren't even in the top,

spnv 15
dr 14
soap 16
df 17

i mean wtf???

Because they lost.

Quote:
Originally Posted by shutthatdoor
if you think good guilds can kill heroway anytime, observe hand vs final realm, it's on now

HAnD always lose to heroway, so what?

to qoute u: u have no clue (what ur talking about)

shutthatdoor · Jan 27, 2008, 04:34 PM // 16:34

give me a decent argument why i have no clue then?
cuz if it really is a hard build to play and it does need a lot of skill
why do i see posts everywhere saying: worst mAt ever, etc.

after a while there will obviously be builds that counter it, and the meta will adapt to it, but, the worst thing is, the mAT is held right after an important update, and the guilds that were playing best for months now lost due to tat update

RhanoctJocosa · Jan 27, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by shutthatdoor

give me a decent argument why i have no clue then?
cuz if it really is a hard build to play and it does need a lot of skill
why do i see posts everywhere saying: worst mAt ever, etc.

after a while there will obviously be builds that counter it, and the meta will adapt to it, but, the worst thing is, the mAT is held right after an important update, and the guilds that were playing best for months now lost due to tat update

Wow you're an idiot.

1) [Me]'s assassins would have had to have strong communication and awareness; they did NOT just button mash.
2) If their build doesn't require skill why can't all the other guilds trying to play sinsplit get top50? Why did they beat some of the best guilds in the game? Why do they have a gold cape?
3) As much as I respect those guilds, it's a tourney and they lost. You can blame shitty balance and a terrible VoD, but they knew what [Me] were going to run and (dR) even tried building against it, somewhat anyway, and lost. Saying [Me] didn't deserve to win the MaT because they picked a build they were good at and worked in the current GvG state is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing stupid.

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Originally Posted by W I C K E D

to qoute u: u have no clue (what ur talking about)

Yeah, okay.